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bombing looking for the hero who saved her life and brought her through a tough time by telling her his story. the miss steer kwrus tyler comes forward -- the miss miss -- mysterious tyler comes forward after a plea from the governor. >>gretchen: good to be back. i was on an airplane and could not get back to the east coast. glad to be back. >>steve: yesterday talking about what we knew fact-wise. now the stories are coming out, and there are amazing stories concerning heroism and what we know regarding the bomb. >>brian: the bomb and the bomber as people scramble to find out who did this to stop the next one. >>gretchen: brand-new details on boston.

we have live team coverage for you. heather nauert on the latest with the f.b.i. search. first let's look at the remains of the bomb. >> good morning. we are getting more information about the bomb, but still investigators have very little information about the person or the people responsible for these horrific attacks. the pictures of the bomb, of the crime scene first obtained by our fox affiliate in atlanta show what investigators told us about these weapons. the f.b.i. authorities saying that the devices were made from pressure cookers filled with shrapnel consisting of ball bearings and also other sharp metal spikes similar to nails likely carried in a black nylon bag. the bomb experts at the f.b.i. academy in quantico, virginia, will try to rebuild and assess these fragments to determine the manufacturer of all the parts and ultimately to give them clues as to who exactly built these devices and determine how they were

also detonated. was it by remote control or a timing device? the f.b.i. is also putting a direct plea out to the public asking people to come forward if they know anything, if they have any idea who may have done this. if anyone spoke about setting off these explosives at the boston marathon, if they know anyone who talked about attacking the boston marathon. and also if they had heard any explosions in the area, in their neighborhoods. in other words, some evidence that someone may have been training. we also have some pictures that have come forward from whdh, fox news boston, an affiliate here in boston. these pictures, incredible photos, really show what happened just prior to the blast and photos from directly after the blast. they appear to show a bag there on the sidewalk just along the side of the runners, the bag that may have actually held the bomb that caused so much carnage, giving investigators yet another clue to work with as they move forward in this investigation.

at this point in time, there have been over 2,000 tips provided to f.b.i. authorities. at this point, though, there has been no claim of responsibility for these attacks, so investigators have very little investigation as far as any sort of claims of responsibility or concerns. the range of motive, the range of suspects remains wide open. no information as to whether this was domestic-based or an internationally based crime. steve, gretchen, brian. >>steve: thank you. when you see those pressure cooker bombs, it inspires to the in house magazine from al qaeda. in 2010 they put out an article how to build a bomb in the kitchen of your mom. the man who tried to blow up a truck in times square had a pressure cooker in the back. >>brian: bomb experts say pressure cookers have been around much longer -- the pressure cooker bomb longer than the "inspire"

magazine. i think they saw a bag inside a bag. it was so heavy they surmise possibly the bomb was constructed nearby because it couldn't have traveled a great distance. it would have been extremely danger dangerous to get it there. experts say it was probably made close. >>gretchen: wouldn't somebody have seen somebody carrying a really heavy bag. >>brian: at the marathon they had maybe 17,000 people finish. >>steve: and light security as well. five minutes after the top of the hour. >>brian: the f.b.i. reaching out to americans saying tell us what you know. heather nauert joins us live with more on the search for the suspects. the age of the iphone, everybody is taking pictures of everything. maybe we are the best witness. >> the f.b.i. is asking for the public's help. please send in video. please send in any pictures because there were so many people who must have photographed that event. they say even something small could be a key clue

to find out who is responsible for this. right now we are hearing the biggest problem for investigators in the wake of the attacks is the clock. no clear suspects yet. even that raid we told you about yesterday, the police raid on the apartment of that young saudi national who was injured in the blast, seems to have been a dead end. >> at this time there are no claims of responsibility. the range of suspects and motives remains wide open. we're asking anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon or the date of april 15 in any way that indicated that he or she may target the event to call us. someone knows who did this. >> the point is they believe someone must have heard something, so they need that information. now there is another major problem at this point and that is that we are now on day three, and the longer that this takes the more difficult the manhunt will become. these new images are providing some important information, images of the remnants of the bomb that are providing some essential clues. this was a pressure cooker

which is often used by terrorists overseas to make improvised explosive devices. on-line propaganda, you mentioned there, from one al qaeda affiliate specifically mentioned the use of pressure cookers. the f.b.i. and homeland security warning of these devices in a bulletin after one was used in that attempted times square bombing in may of 2010. so far the f.b.i. says it has received more than 2,000 tips, but still no clear suspect or motive. again, the f.b.i. asking for pictures being taken at the scene, also saying someone must have heard something or seen something. what is interesting here, i talked to a police officer yesterday who said that finger prints may be able to be obtained from those pieces of shrapnel coming from that bomb. that's an interesting one to watch. >>gretchen: thank you for that update. this morning we're learning who the victims of the marathon bombing were and how they're being remembered. hundreds packed boston common to honor martin

richard, crystal campbell and a boston university grad student. >>steve: eight-year-old martin richard, the youngest victim, was at the race cheering on his father. he was at the finish line to give him a hug when the bombs went off. his mother and younger sister suffered major injuries from the blast. i believe the mother has a brain injury. >>brian: and the sister's holding on two. 29-year-old krystal campbell killed in the commotion. she was at the marathon cheering on her friend's boyfriend. >> we are heart broken. she was a wonderful -- she had -- everybody that her loved her. she was always smiling [inaudible] you could not ask for a

better daughter. >>gretchen: we now know the third victim was a chinese national. she was attending grad school at boston university. her family has asked that no other information be released at this time. there is one piece of information that is amazing that's coming out this morning, and that was yesterday governor deval patrick had a press conference in massachusetts and was talking about one of the victims he had seen in the hospital. she was a young woman who had severe shrapnel wound in her leg. she wanted to reach out to the man who helped her through the most horrible time when the injury first happened. all she remembered was he was a sergeant and his name was tyler. after that press conference people wondered how long it would take before tyler would come forward. here's the governor. >> his name is tyler. that's all we know. tyler. one of the things he said to her to calm her down was to show her his own shrapnel -- a wound or scar from his own shrapnel wound from when he was in

afghanistan. victoria very, very much wants to thank tyler personally. so if tyler is out there and listening or reading the reports, we would love to hear from tyler so that we can connect him to victoria. >>steve: after that, as it turns out, somebody was watching the fox affiliate in boston called tyler and said i think the governor was just talking about you. tyler appeared on fox boston last night, and here's how he recounts meeting victoria. >> i just saw the fear in her eyes. she was obviously in extreme pain. i knew i had to talk to her. if there was nothing else i could do, i could talk to her. she asked me not to leave her. she was holding my hand. some kind of connection on a spiritual level i would have to say. just when i told her it was going to be okay, she believed me. i can't describe how calm she was at that point. and she said, yeah, just have selfless and telling me to go help other people.

her strength helped me through the situation to help other people. she seemed like an amazing person. >>brian: amazing story. his experience in afghanistan in a bomb made like the ones in afghanistan were able to help somebody over in boston. >>steve: there's an item. he wrote a firsthand account in esquire magazine says he's a recovering alcoholic. wakes up everyday praising god to help him through the day. on that day he was there to help that woman. another fox news alert. the funeral for lady phargt phargt -- for lady phargt rhett thatcher underway. >> the future for baroness thatcher underway at saint paul's cathedral. it is a very elaborate funeral. this is just about as elaborate of a funeral as you can have in the united kingdom. more elaborate would be a state funeral,

margaret thatcher said she did not want. this is a ceremonial funeral with full military honors. there was a procession that began at the palace of westminster and went to a chapel which is the royal air force chapel and moved along fleet street, white hall fleet street and ended up at st. paul's cathedral where it is just underway. some people complain it was unnecessary to roll out the pomp and ceremony at the taxpayers' expense, but this is the sort of funeral, the level of honor that the government has deemed necessary and appropriate for a woman who has such a strong legacy in this country. and there are plenty of people who have wanted very much to honor the late prime minister's legacy. the crowds outside along the streets this morning were quite large. eight or ten deep in many places lining the route of the elaborate funeral cortege. 2,000 dignitaries from 170

countries are attending the funeral. former u.s. secretaries of state henry kissinger, george schultz, james baker and former vice president dick cheney. there is also a congressional delegation here. the queen and numerous british politicianser here. there have been concerns about security generally because margaret thatcher was a divisive prime minister and there are some people who have wanted to protester have been some protests in the week since she has died. but this morning we did not see any disturbances. in fact, we saw some people throwing flowers at her coffin as it went by. then of course in the wake of the bombings in boston, there's also concern that anything could go wrong at a public gathering. so security has been stepped up. there are 4,000 officers on the streets today. back to you. >>brian: we just showed it to you, a chilling image. this could be the bag holding the second bomb in boston just moments before the explosion. how investigators will use it to track down who did

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never reached his office. it was intercepted at an off-site mail screening facility that was implemented after the 2001 anthrax attack. there was no return address on the envelope but it had a tennessee postmark and investigators say they already have a suspect in mind. more shortly. gretch, over to you. >>gretchen: startling new photos emerged now showing the before and the after of one of the deadliest boston marathon blasts. notice the mailbox in the before picture. in the after photo that bag is gone. it's a photo that f.b.i. investigators are looking at as part of their investigation. thomas ruskin is president of a private security group. good to see you this morning. let's analyze those photos first. luckily there seems to have been a camera there that has captured this. the before and the after. do you think flynn would have noticed that -- do you think anyone would have noticed that bag there?

>> possibly not. it looks like it was a fixed television camera. because it was a fixed television camera, it may be very valuable to investigators, police as well as f.b.i. investigators in determining who actually put the bag over the rail there. it doesn't look like anyone is able to walk in front of the guardrail there or the barrier. so whoever put it there probably made his or her way to the front and dropped it over the guardrail. >>gretchen: what do you make of the "after" photo. the fact that the bag is obviously missing there other than remnants of it. i think we have pictures of some of the remnants now of the pressure cooker. you believe they may be able to get a serial number off of that? >> they most likely will be able to get serial numbers. in one of the photos you actually see the make and model and where it was basically made. and some kinds of serial numbers. the lab technician between the police department and the f.b.i. are very good at recreating a bomb or even

in the flight 800, they were able to re-create from putting the pieces together. when they put the pieces together of the pressure cooker, it's very possible that it may lend itself to a serial number, so they'll be able to see where that pressure cooker was shipped to and potentially the store it was sold from. >>gretchen: then they would go back and look at surveillance video. let's say it was purchased in the last week, that would make it a lot easier. >> absolutely or the last month. we don't know how smart the terrorist was who bought this. maybe they used a credit card. maybe they used cash. but surveillance videos, other videos in the area may lend itself to identifying the people responsible for this. >>gretchen: you have experienced, at least in the new york city situation, in the 1993 bombing where you said they were able to put together the vin number of a car that youssef rented and that put together the pieces of the puzzle. >> the car had been totally destroyed. portions of the vinn had

been put together by the in, police department lab to identify itself to determine where the car was rented from in new jersey which lead to youssef and others being arrested. >>gretchen: you do believe some of the crime scene photos released to the media, these remnant particles, that somebody might get in trouble for that. why? >> it's the first time i've seen in a major case crime scene photos somehow leaked to the media. someone gave them out. they are potential evidence in a criminal case. i can't see that the police department or the f.b.i. is happy that those photos got out a day or two after the crime. >>gretchen: it looks like at least we have some leads to go on now with some of these photos. thomas ruskin, former nypd detective who has tremendous experience in this. thank you so much. let's go over to brian. >>brian: over here on the couch with stuart varney and steve doocy.

two rockets fired from an egyptian peninsula ended up in a resort. there has been an investigation and so far no proof the rockets were fired from egypt. the immigration bill, under it immigrants who have been in the country before twert can ap-- before 2012 can apply for status. after that they have to wait more than ten years to get citizenship. some people are upset about that. we'll go over that later. >>steve: we will. meanwhile, as the country mourns the horrific event in boston, one democratic leader pointing the finger and blaming it on the sequester. that's right. house minority whip steny hoyer told fox news the incident in boston is -- quote -- "proof that the sequester negatively impacted the intelligence community." joining us right now is stuart varney. events like this always get

politicized, but it's so soon. >> yes, it is. this is the direct politicization on an outrage, an attack on america. i personally think it's wrong to do that. maybe it is inevitable but i personally think that it's wrong. now you have to ask the question: did the sequester cuts, did that in fact affect our intelligence-gathering capability, which impeded before the boston happening? is that what happened? did sequester affect our intelligence capability? obviously we don't know, but steny hoyer is implying directly that. he chucked it out on the table. he politicized a national outrage. >>brian: i would go the opposite way. i would say during the task force formed when bush took over after the 9/11 attacks, the f.b.i. took over. there was a dissemination of powers and responsibilities irregardless of sequester

or anything else. nobody said excuse me, i don't get paid for this. have you seen anyone get on-line and say sorry, today's my furlough day? >> he chucked it out on the table. >>brian: why didn't he propose something? >> any negative that comes down the pike over the past mont or so has been linked to sequester. two weeks ago we got bad jobs numbers. the left said it's the sequester cuts. that was absolute nonsense. but they chucked it on the table. they had politicized it. they brought sequester in. they're going by president obama's play book. when the sequester cuts came in he said the sky will fall. the effects will be absolutely terrible. now the left is trying to back him up. >>gretchen: except it was his idea originally and many people believe he did have the authority if he wanted to to alter some of those cuts and put them in different areas. >>steve: two pennies on the dollar. if they put public safety, you know, at bay for two pennies on the dollar, that

is terrible. >> are you trying to tell me we cut two cents on the dollar? actually it's $45 billion worth of cuts this calendar year. that's it. that's very little. are you trying to tell me that those kind of cuts impede our capability to gather intelligence before the boston event, that they affect the jobs markets, affects the overall economy in the last month? look, i'm sorry, i just don't buy it. i think it's reprehensible to politicize an event like this. >>gretchen: would be like on the other side if republicans said this maybe had happened because of president obama's foreign policy with regard to terrorism. that would also be outrageous. >> there are two sides to this fence. don't politicize an event like this. don't do it. that's opinion, okay. >>steve: stuart varney is going to have a lot to talk about over at fox business today, 9:20 eastern time where he takes control of that channel each and every week. all right, stewart. >>gretchen: coming up, boston has a message for

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>>brian: time for your shot of the morning. a strong message for whoever is responsible for the terror attack in the boston marathon on monday. a local union putting up this billboard. i-93, there it is. it reads krourdz. the billboard has gotten many compliments on twitter and shows the strength and unity among bostonians during this time. the president of the united states referred to the bomber or bombers as cowards as well. >>brian: boston has lived up to their reputation of being tough, resilient and they were prepared as anybody could be. >>gretchen: amazing medical community as well. >>steve: it is exactly 6:30 here in the city. many people now wondering what -- many people left wondering, that is to say, if a letter containing the potentially deadly poison ric i n sent to a

republican senator's capitol hill office is connected to the marathon bombing. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani says it has to be considered a connection. >> i was taught you investigate by not excluding coincidences. when you have a coincidence, it's probably connected. if it isn't connected, you can find out. the fact is all of a sudden getting something like this sent to the united states senate, you have to start wondering is something being triggered here? is something going on? it may turn out not to be so but it's worth investigating it from that point of view. >>brian: for that point of view is a guy that's written other senators before. >>steve: peter doocy is outside washington, d.c. >> the building behind me is where the field test was done on a piece of mail sent to republican senator roger wicker that came back positive for ric i n

poison. we're told the letter was postmarked memphis, tennessee, had no return address but was otherwise not outwardly suspicious. and the f.b.i. says right now more advanced testing is being done at an acredited facility to confirm the letter did contain ric i n. the cdc says it would take a deliberate act to make ricin and poison people. it has no antidote and some senators are on edge. >> it goes to a lot of staff. that's a big concern obviously for all of us. we're very anxious to get more details. >> senators on capitol hill were briefed about this letter last night and senator claire mack cass

skill says authorities have a suspect in mind and it is a person who sends lawmakers a lot of letters. the lawmaker whose name is on this letter, senator roger wicker, republican from mississippi, says this matter is an ongoing investigation by the f.b.i. i want to thank law officials for their hard work and diligence in keeping those of us who work in the capitol complex safe. as for the u.s. postal service, they say their primary concern is keeping their employees safe, their customers safe and keeping the u.s. mail safe as well. >>gretchen: let's do some other headlines. a thrift store worker hospitalized after an explosion in his face. the georgia man suffered minor burns and immediately people started thinking of the boston attack. >> given yesterday's event, we're going to be extra cautious. that's why you see the response you're seeing here today. >>gretchen: however officials do say that incident was isolated. >>brian: american airlines says they'll be back to near normal

operations today. a major computer meltdown forced the airline to cancel nearly 1,000 flights and delay over 1,000 more. american says their reservation system was down for hours. thousands of passengers were left stranded in airports around the country certainlying for information. -- searching for information. >> after we were there for an hour or so they said why don't we get off so we can be more comfortable. we waited around for four or five hours. we just found out our flight was canceled. >> that seemed a little bit, you know, a little uneasy that employees here didn't know what was going on in the outside world. >>brian: two calm people. i would have been out of my mind. american says the system is now restored. passengers who had to make flight changes will not be charged. that's big of you. >>steve: more than seven months after the deadly attack on our u.s. consolate in benghazi, libya, which left four americans dead, we're learning key changes promised will take months, possibly even years, to

take effect. in the wake of the september 11, 2012 attack, more marines, a bigger diplomatic staff and more reliable local guards were recommended, but it's going to take awhile before we see that over there. >>gretchen: two arizona kids getting bravery awards for stopping a speeding car after their dad passed out. listen to this. >> emergency. >> i'm in a car with my dad right now, and his blood sugar is low and i can't control the car. >>gretchen: with their dad's foot stuck on the pedal and the car speeding at 90 miles an hour, michael and kylaw woody jumped into action. michael grabbed the wheel while kylah dialed # 11. after terrifying moments they were able to stop the car and the police came for help. >>steve: mr. kilmeade it was a big night in boston. >>brian: under your seat

belt, lean over your dad, going 90 miles an hour. the city of boston making it very clear that a cowardly act will not change its traditions. despite monday's senseless terror attack the 2014 boston marathon will go ahead as planned. i predict record attendance. the athletic association says the race is an integral part of the history and they are committed to continuing that tradition. with heavy hearts the boston red sox took to the field in cleveland and secured a 7-2 win. there was a moment of silence there held before the game. sweet caroline was played over the p.a. during warmups and the red sox traditional winning song "dirty water" was played after. the red sox posted this picture on-line dedicating their win to the city. let's talk about something else. that big rivalry in sports, the new york yankees. the yankees paid tribute to the city of boston like boston did for new york after 9/11, also playing their song "sweet caroline

." ♪ where it began ♪ i can't begin ♪ to know it ♪ but then ♪ i know it's ♪ growing strong ♪ >> they posted a sign that said new york stand with boston. the kwraeupbgz went on to win 4-2, then the yankee fans began to realize the significance of the song and what it meant. >>steve: yesterday new york city hall, you knew what they flew outside? the boston city flag. very nice. solidarity across the country. meanwhile across the country we've got extreme weather. spring snow piling up out west. two feet falling in parts of colorado and more is expected today. the plains states are preparing to get hit as well. let's send it over to maria molina for more on that storm. hey, maria. >> good morning. good to see you. good morning, everyone. it is yet again another day we're talking about significant snowfall across

sections of the plains. just a few days ago we talked about 20 inches falling in parts of the dakotas. today a foot or more can fall out there. we have winter storm warnings in effect and even blizzard watches across sections of colorado because you're not just looking at significant snowfall but those areas under that blizzard watch could see gusts as high as 50 miles an hour today. that will produce whiteout conditions out there and blizzard conditions. that is why we have those watches in effect. i want to show you high temperatures across the country. we're going to be seeing warm and humid conditions across parts of the south. new orleans 86 degrees for your high temperature today, shy of 90 in tampa. it is going to be humid so it will be feeling a little bit hotter than what the thermometer reads. in florida. across the northeast, here we have drizzle rolling through. this is just for the morning hours. you will be drying out later today. that snow coming down across the plains already. winter storm warnings, watches and blizzard watches in effect. i want to mention we have a

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>>brian: the damage from the boston bombing isn't just physical. the emotional toll also devastating. as victims of families begin to recover, are they really at risk for ptsz? if so, how do they cope? let's ask dr. david samadi. is it right to say ptsd after one incident? >> absolutely. we have to be very careful.

as we come out of this and the recovery starts, that's when you're going to see a lot of people being affected by this. the key word was emotional, psychological and there are a lot of behavioral symptoms that will come. ptsd is a normal reaction to an abnormal event. a lot of times people associate it to war. but you may have sandy storm, a hurricane. >>brian: you talk about the phases we should look for. >> the first phase is that they remember, they recall. there are flashbacks, the sight of the blood, kids bleeding, et cetera. the second one is making sure they become isolated. they don't want to deal with anybody. they don't want to interact with anybody. the last phase is the arousal, anger, frustrations. all of a sudden they are burst into like anger. they can't interact with anybody. the sooner you interfere with this, the sooner you get help and interact with other families and recognize that you have a

problem, the better we can take care of this. >>brian: tell me if this is splitting hairs, but if i'm trained to be an army infantry man, i'm wearing the helmet, i'm fighting a war, i still might suffer ptsd. but if i go to watch a marathon, t type bomb happens to me, is it harder to overcome that as opposeed to somebody who was trained to deal with this? >> absolutely. i think any kind of exposure to this kind of tragic, traumatic event is going to trigger that kind of behavior. some people recover from this within the first 30 days. that's called accuse stress disorder. once it goes on over 30 days you're going to get into the ptsd zone and you've got to be careful. the key is if you're suffering from these symptoms there are a lot of hot lines, people to help you. you've got to ask for it. >>brian: i want to bring you to one incident very specifically tragic. you had these brothers watching this event,

watching a friend finish. they were blown up. both of them lost one leg. >> unbelievable what is going on. my heart goes to them. i hope they recover from this. they are going to be affected by this. their families are going to be affected by this. we need to keep an eye on a lot of people who have been there. sometimes part of the therapy, unfortunately go back to the scene. it is almost somebody afraid of the height, you bring them back to the scene and kind of -- and sometimes over time you can recovery. sometimes you have to go on medication, anxiety. don't be afraid to ask for help. there are a lot of psychiatrists and psychologists whob -- who can listen and help you. there is a lot of drug abuse, alcoholism that can break up the family and that is the biggest fear of this ptsd. >>brian: don't you get the sense that america has learned over the last ten

years and doesn't react the way we used to? maybe we react a little bit better, a little bit more street smart about this? >> america a beautiful country. it's open. we have the sense of forgetting over time, after ten years of 9/11, we let our guards down. this is a very unfortunate event, but we have to stick together and get through this and be aware of the stuff going on in our world. >>brian: it is great the way the medical community reacted in massachusetts. it is going to go down in history. dr. samadi, thank you. 13 minutes before the top of the hour. you see the commercials all the time so you must wonder, is gold really a good investment? yes or no? dave ramsey has the advice next hour. regulation nation next.

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>>steve: scary logo on the high seas. we told you about how the new england fishermen are fighting foyer their livelihoods because of government regulations but they might not be the only ones affected. >> this year a lot of young guys are trying to get a start, make a name for themselves. they're hungry. >> king of the world! >> when you've got guys that are hungry -- >> heads up! >> -- that's when things get nasty. that's when the gloves are off. >>steve: that is when the gloves are off. and the hooks are out.

we have the stars of discovery channel's "the deadliest catch." they join us in our studios today. how are you? >> good. >>steve: how about regulation? how bad is washington clamping down on your business? >> keith, take it over. >> that is an interesting question. they review the magnuson-stevens act every ten years. that's coming up. it's like looking at the i.r.s. of tax code. you have the north pacific, alaska. >>steve: it should be simple. we're going to go get them. >> think about it. now we own a part of a federal resource. it's been good for us that way. we can lease crab, buy crab, sell a crab. for us, it's been lucrative. but at the same time they do clamp down.

every agency has got their fingers in us somehow. >>steve: who is the worst? who is the worst? >> they're all great! they're all great! >>steve: in the next season, i understand you guys face your toughest winter ever; right? there is a downturn? >> it's like groundhog day. it was tough. >>steve: why is that? just an off year? >> he'll say there is a lot of ice. flatout, climate change is an issue and it's impacted all the fisheries, all the seas, everything. incrementally a little at a time. you throw things out of whack a little bit and the whole marine ecosystem starts to shift. but our fisheries are healthy right now. >> it didn't feel like global warming to me, that's all i know. i'm telling you, it was cold. >>steve: of all the reality shows, i think

yours scares me the most. >> documentary. >>steve: okay. it is a documentary show. >> we're not the bering sea housewives. >>steve: sorry mr. kardashian. >> let's keep it real here. >>steve: but of all the docu -- >> docu dramas. >> yours seems dangerous. >> you're going to quit your day job right now and come fishing. >>steve: here on the couch, i feel secure. but you guys need to tie ropes around yourself. otherwise, next thing you know, he just fell over board. should we go get him? almost lunch time. >> we're making money. >>steve: what's going to happen in the new season? >> there is more about the social dynamic on the boats rather than the fishing, which is good. we've had a lot of changes. young versus old; things like that. >> that's one of the

reasons why the show has survived nine years and is successful in season nine. that is because it used to just be documenting crab fishing. now it's taken a deeper look into the lives of all of us knuckleheads. >>steve: because you are rival captains, there is some trash talking. >> as soon as the lines are thrown, the gloves come off. >> the gloves are off. >>steve: check out "the deadliest catch" season nine on discovery airs tuesday night. >> see you in alaska in a few months. >> you've got to lose the tie, by the way. >> he's tough. >>steve: i'm tough. change of gears. we're going to continue to follow two breaking developments in the terror bombing in boston. the f.b.i. turning their attention to this backpack possibly holding a bomb. the story continues to

change by the minute. we're live in boston at the top of the hour. another terrorist scare in our nation's capital. an envelope filled with deadly poison mailed to a u.s. senator. details in two minutes.

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in. >> steve: and that's not all. another terror scare. this one in our nation's capitol. an envelope with traces of a poison sent to a u.s. senator's office. the breaking developments on that and so much more. "fox & friends" hour two for wednesday starts right now. >> gretchen: let's get right to the brand-new information with the fox news alert. the nation mourns, brand-new details on the terrorist attack in boston more thanking overnight. we have live team coverage this morning. heather here in new york city with the latest on the f.b.i. search for a suspect. first, let's go to molly line in boston with the first look at the remains of the bomb or bombs. molly? >> we're learning more about the bomb and the components. but we know very little still at this hour about the person or

the people responsible for the horrific attack. there was a significant leak of photos. the f.b.i. from a law enforcement bulletin first obtained by fox 5 atlanta, you'll recall from yesterday, that showed exactly what investigators were talking about when they spoke about the bomb. essentially the devices were made from pressure cookers filled with shrapnel consisting of small ball bearings, a metal spike intended to cause a tremendous amount of harm and casualties. also investigators believe they were likely carried in a black nylon bag and there were photos of that also included in those shots released. experts from the f.b.i. academy in virginia will be poring over all of the photos and over the bomb piece themselves trying to recreate exactly how this bomb was made, how it was put together and exactly who created it. they'll try to determine how it was detonated, whether that was via a timer or remote control. another significant release from

yesterday were a set of photos, incredible pictures released by whdh, channel 7 news, local boston station here, that have a picture of the raceway near the finish line just prior to the explosion and just after the explosion. in that photo, it shows a small bag there on the sidewalk just a few feet from the runners, just inches away from spectators there. so these photos all part of establishing a time line that will help investigators determine when that bag arrived there on the sidewalk, whether or not it is significant in this investigation, whether it possibly conceals the bomb itself. all of that will be something investigators are looking to answer. there is there has been no -- there has been no claim of responsibility for this attack. investigators have no idea who did this or why and no idea as to whether or not it was planned here in america or if this was perhaps something from an international perspective.

gretchen? >> gretchen: molly line in boston, thanks very much. >> brian: they look at it like two six-liter pressure cookers, probably made nearby. they were so heavy and so easy to blow up on their own that they didn't want to take them a great distance. and that bag, if it's that bag, they believe it's got a black bag on the outside. in a double bag situation. on the surface, i would think that sitting in front of a bike rack that's holding back all these people would be conspicuous. >> gretchen: if only runners are allowed out onto the street, were they -- they're not going to be a runner running with a bag. how did they push their way through to all their people. you know if you've been standing for hours, you're not going to take lightly someone coming from behind. >> steve: a lot of people at that stage of the game are trying to get pictures of people. so if you've got to the front right there next to that fence, you had something, you just

leaned over and put it down and took a picture, you'd be pretty innocuous. what's interesting is that particular picture, now they've sent to the f.b.i., that didn't come from that tv station. that came from somebody out in the viewing public. they sent it to the tv station and now it's gone to the f.b.i the f.b.i. saying, remember, folks, if you got anything, let us have it. >> brian: they were at logan airport asking people as they were getting on the airplane saying, if you have anything we can download it here. >> steve: yeah. before you leave. >> brian: let us make decisions. the f.b.i. reaching out to americans saying tell us what you know. heather joins us live with more on the search for a suspect. >> good morning. they are working very hard to try to find something out right now. the f.b.i. is saying that someone out there, as we've been talking about, must have seen something suspicious or heard someone talking about plotting an attack. they want to hear from the public. we looked at that picture just a moment ago of those hundreds of people crammed against the gate. investigators are going to try

to pinpoint who each of these individuals was and then try to talk to them to see if they heard something, see if they saw something. but the biggest problem right now for investigators is the clock. still no suspects at this hour. even that police raid on the apartment of a young saudi national who was injured in the blast seems to have been a dead end. he is no longer considered a person of interest. listen to this. >> there are no claims of responsibility. the range of suspects and motives remains wide open. >> we're asking anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon or the date of april 15 in any way that indicated that he or she may target the event to call us. someone knows who did this. >> that is the key point. the problem is at this point, we're now on day three and the longer that this takes, the more difficult the manhunt becomes. these new images, that is bringing some hope for investigators. what is left of the bombs are providing important clues this morning. fragments may contain

fingerprints, we're told, and investigators may be able to pinpoint where the pressure cooker, which was used to make the bombs, was purchased. these pots are often used by terrorists overseas to try to make improvised explosive devices and on-line propaganda from one al-qaeda affiliate has specifically mentioned and suggested the use of pressure cookers in make bombs. the f.b.i. and homeland security, they warned of these devices in a bulletin after one was attempted to be used in times square in a bomb not guilty 2010. -- bombing in 2010. the f.b.i. has received over 2,000 tips, but no suspect or motive yet. they need your help. part of the problem is folks in boston may be disbursed all throughout the country as there were runners from so many parts of the u.s. and the world. >> brian: the pakinstani taliban said unlike the times square bomber, unlike when they took credit, this time they're saying it's not them. however, in that magazine, they have their chief bomb maker who

said last month that he says -- america will see we're not in decline. >> gretchen: it could be someone who is trying to be a copy cat to make it seem like it's from overseas and by the way, they may be able to link the serial numbers to know where those were purchased. but a viewer brings up a very important point, that maybe a lot of these are purchased at garage sales or things like that where it may not be traceable. in a perfect world, it would have been bought last week and they have surveillance video of a person buying that particular unit. we'll have to wait and see if it will be that easy to track down. >> steve: what they did, and heather didn't detail this, but inside the pressure cooker they fill it full of bb and nails. there were instances of all of them in what they've seen so far. i heard from one of the doctors at one of the hospitals, he said we have x-rays of people who came in after the marathon with

ten, 20, 30, 40 nails inside of them. it's horrible indeed. this morning we're learning about the victims of the marathon and how they're being remembered. hundreds packed boston common last night, lighting candles and holding signs asking for peace to honor martin richard, crystal campbell, and boston university student. >> brian: from china. >> steve: yeah. >> brian: the youngest victim was at the race cheering on his dad. he was waiting at the finish line to give him a hug when the bombs went off. his mother and younger sister suffered major injuries and they're rallying around the little sister at this hour from the blast. >> i just can't believe this whole thing has happened. i watched him grow up as a baby. >> gretchen: 29-year-old crystal campbell was also killed in the explosion. she was at the race to cheer on her friend's boyfriend. the hospital originally told her parents that she had survived.

she's apparently carrying her friend's i.d but then they later found out that it was their daughter. >> she was all smiles. you couldn't ask for a better daughter. i can't believe this has happened. this doesn't make any sense. >> steve: we know that the third victim was a chinese national. she's attending graduate school at boston university. her family has asked no other information be released at this time. >> gretchen: what duty your -- what do you tell your kids? this will be a huge issue around the country, one i personally faced last night with one of my children so, so upset about this. mommy, why does newtown happen? mommy, why did this happen? you're kind of at a loss as a parent. >> steve: that's one of the reasons we look to the president of the united states during times of tragedy for leadership. his first comments after what happened, he did not refer to what happened in boston as terrorism. yesterday he made another

appearance before the press and he did say terrorism. here he is. >> this was a heinous and cowardly act and given what we now know about what took place, the f.b.i. is investigating it as an act of terrorism. any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror. >> brian: charles krauthammer on yesterday said look, the staff was saying it was a terrorist attack. when the president talked, he said tragedy. here he is weighing in on the difference one day later. >> a bus accident is a tragedy. an attack on a bus is a crime or an act of war. when fdr addressed the congress after pearl harbor, he didn't say, december 7, a day that will live in tragedy. he said it's a day that would live in infamy. this has to do with agency and cause. i mean, an accident is a tragedy and it has a cause and has to do

with fate, accident, luck. but when the agency is human evil, that's beyond a tragedy and that's beyond a crime and that's what we're dealing with. i agree. it's a little early to say -- it was obviously an attack. to call it terrorism, you had to be sure. >> that's right. >> -- that the motive was a political one. >> steve: now we're sure it was terrorism. >> gretchen: now another developing story. all mail delivered to the u.s. senate has been stopped, this after a letter containing deadly poison risin was sent to a republican senator's capitol hill office. peter doocy is live with more on that story. hi, peter. >> gretchen, the suspect letter never made it to republican senator roger wicker's office because a field test here in maryland at the mail facility behind me came back positive for risin poison. we know the letter had no return address. it was postmarked memphis, tennessee. but otherwise we're told it was not outwardly suspicious.

the f.b.i. says since initial testing was inconsistent on a credit -- an accredited lab is working to confirm the presence of risin, which should take 24 to 48 hours. last night u.s. senators received a briefing on this threat. >> not just members are concerned, it goes through a lot of staff. that's big concern obviously for all of us. we're very anxious to get more details. >> any information -- >> senator claire mccaskill says authorities have a suspect in mind and that it's a person who sends lawmakers a lot of letters. the law maker whose name is on this letter, senator roger wicker from mississippi, says this matter is part of an ongoing investigation by the united states capitol police and f.b.i i want to thank our law enforcement officials for their hard work and diligence in keeping those of us who work in

the capitol complex safe. remember back in 2004, some risin was found on a letter opening machine and then senate majority leader bill fritz' office, there were no injuries then. but also no letter was ever found, so no arrest was made. this time around, the postal service says they are focusing on the safety of their employees, their customers and the mail, but right now, no mail going to u.s. senate buildings until further notice. back to you. >> brian: thanks. everyone is so critical of government, that's fine. but after anthrax, we made adjustments and it's fine now. straight ahead, the bombs we saw in boston used to be limited to places like afghanistan, pakistan. with instructions on the internet, is this a new threat that could strike again? a military expert weighs in. >> steve: and a major meltdown forced american airlines to cancel all of their flights for most of yesterday. what the heck happened and how is travel today? is it back to normal? we'll be right back with detail

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>> gretchen: fox news alert. somber day in london. the funeral of margaret thatcher just wrapping up now. thousands glared at st. paul's cathedral, including queen elizabeth, ditch, and other world leaders to pay their respects. security very tight around the scene. over 4,000 officers on patrol. nearby subway stations shut down. she died last week at the age of 87 following a stroke.

an american airlines says they're getting back to normal after an all day shut down. major computer glitched in their reservation system forcing them to cancel or delay nearly 2,000 flights yesterday. american says passengers who had to make flight changes will not be charged. thank you very much. >> brian: the horrifying boston marathon bombings have the hallmarks of an ied explosion like those seen over in afghanistan, in iraq. it isn't exact plea what they experienced when we fight there. pictures show twisted pictures of steel from a pressure cooker, improvised bomb that's often used in the middle east. even before we find out who did this, the question is, should we expect this? former military intelligence officer a.j. carr compiled clues from past ied bombings and the ceo of a company. can we expect some of these ied's, regardless of who is

behind this here like they experience in afghanistan and iraq? >> i believe in the time we're living in, it's quite possible that we could expect more of these. the simplity of this device lends us to believe that anyone could construct it out of common household materials or other items that are available. >> brian: so you're saying some of the restrictions we have on fertilizer and some of the red flags that have people turning on would be bomb makers, they can get around this with these pressure cookers? >> it is correct that the different ingredients involved in this explosion are available and you can get around any kind of restrictions that are in place. the pressure cookers we have seen in use in other areas and it's a very common tactic and is available on-line if you were just to do some research. >> brian: judging what we've seen in iraq and afghanistan what, weather it started happening in iraq, within months it started happening in afghanistan. we didn't think it was going to travel all these miles here. a year from now, are we going to be talking about attacks

somewhat regularly? >> it's a really good point. one of the interesting things that has occurred over the last five to ten years is the military and law enforcement agencies have developed all of these patterns from thousands of different improvised explosive devices. what we can do is we can track their movements and patterns and the collaboration among these agencies allows us to start doing predictions about the signatures of the bomb makers. i believe that this will continue to spread because it's a very simple technology and it's widely available. >> brian: tough to track and we'll have you back when we find out who was behind it and where they got it. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> brian: it's the law. you have to pay your taxes. but what about the federal workers who didn't pay? should they be fired? that decision just in. and you see the commercials over time, so you've got to wonder, is gold a good investment? dave ramsey has the answer. we'll find out what's in his pocket.

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with all the highs and lows, is gold too volatile to be a good investment? let's ask personal finance expert dave ramsey. good morning to you, dave. >> good morning, gretchen. how are you? >> gretchen: doing great. a lot of people see these commercials. they have invested in gold. what's your take on it? >> well, i've always said to not invest in gold. gold is a commodity. we need to remember that anything we exchange, whether it's paper or gold or stocks or trading blue jeans for a bottle of water is based on trust. we trust that we can take that item and move it around in the market. gold does not have intrinsic value. the only thing that's driven up its cost up or investment dollars up has been the fear of the economy and people viewing it as a safe haven. honestly, that's a false view. it's really not a safe haven. >> gretchen: why did it plunge so dramatically, even just on

monday? >> i think what we've been predicting for about two or three years as i've been telling not to invest in it, i've been catching a lot of flak for that, is that as soon as the economy kind of stabilized and calmed down and sequesters and the government blowing up financially was out of the headlines of the news for a few months and the economy slowly started to recover, that the fear in the marketplace would somewhat subside. as soon as it did, then gold as a place to go to, well, it's less attractive and stocks rebounding, people went that direction as well, and that caused it to lose its, quote, luster. >> gretchen: okay. i got it. let's go to some e-mails and help out some folks. jan from iowa says my employer stopped the match on our 401(k). should i continue to invest in it? your thoughts. >> a 401(k) with good growth stock mutual fund stocks is always a good place to put your money long-term. i prefer doing a roth ira because it grows tax free before i would do a nonmatching 401(k).

so the order of attack that i use and i suggest other folks use is the first thing you would do is take your match. if you have one, then do roth ira, then do nonmatching 401(k)s. >> gretchen: sarah from michigan, we took out a hardship loan against my husband's fork income in 2009. now he's getting ready to leave this company for another job. we have not paid back all the money. what will happen to the money that is still in there? >> this is a really bad plan you've gotten yourself into a trap. you'll probably have to go to the bank and borrow the money and pay back the 401(k) loan, then roll your 401(k) into an ira. the problem is when you leave a company with a 401(k) loan, you have 60 days to repay the loan. if you do not repay it, it's considered an early withdrawal and you're going to get hit with your taxes and a 10% penalty. you'll get hit for 40 cents on the dollar. they're going to smack you for this move. >> gretchen: hopefully that viewer is listening. she has 60 days to figure it

out. thank you for joining us today. >> thanks, gretchen. good to be with you. >> gretchen: coming up, sign away your second amendment rights? remember this video we showed you? it was no problem. >> we're going to repeal the second amendment and take the guns away from the crazy right wing white extremists and just make sure that only the illegal, unregistered guns stay on the streets. thank you so much. >> gretchen: only illegal guns remain on the street? why was that so easy to get people to sign that? meet the man behind that fake petition. and anna getting her motor running today. you're about to take on a nascar driver? >> i'm here with joey, making headlines a lot, getting into an altercation. he's back smiling today. he doesn't look like he's ready to race. i'm going to take him on. he's wearing loafers. come on! we'll be right back. don't go anywhere

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>> brian: now your shot of the morning. show of solidarity and support, that's the flag of boston fly not guilty front of new york city hall. mayor michael bloomberg announced it would fly at half-staff saying, quote, we stand shoulder to shoulder with our friends in boston. >> gretchen: very nice to do that. >> steve: we are all

bostonnians. that has been said across the country. plus yesterday extraordinarily, at the end of the third inning, during a yankee game, they played "sweet caroline" which has become the anthem for the boston red sox. >> brian: many people say that's the whole story. maybe i should skip the story 'cause you just gave it away. >> gretchen: you would not give up sports. >> steve: you've got a lot more details. we've got details for you. a fox news alert. 170 people were hurt in the bombings in boston. many suffering broken bones or shrapnel wounds, many lost limbs. now those victims are starting to share their stories of survival. wtxf reporter chris o'connell joins us live from boston with more. chris, good morning. >> good morning, guys. we're now putting the faces to this tragedy, the names of the victims slowly emerging. of course those three people that are dead.

among the 170 people that were injured, those injuries ranging anywhere from minor burns, blown out ear drums to double amputations. one story in particular that is quickly making the rounds, among the seriously injured, there are two brothers who went on to cheer a friend on the side lines of the boston marathon. each of them lost a leg. both are being treated at separate boston area hospitals. 31-year-old paul nordon and his 33-year-old brother, j. p. get this, one of them actually called their mother on the way to the hospital from the ambulance. we're also hearing from other victims, some of them who are speaking out about this tragedy. yesterday we heard from nick from suburban boston. he and his wife were just ten feet away from the first explosions when they both suffered significant injuries. >> i looked back and i see a

cloud of smoke and i realize that something was going on. i looked over at my wife and i see that her lower leg was hit by something, some shrapnel. >> we've also heard about that eight-year-old boy who was killed, but among the injured, his mother who suffered severe brain injuries and his six-year-old sister who now lost a leg. they were both here watching their father participate. they were at the finish line. so at last count, 70 people still remain hospitalized. 24 in critical condition. i spoke with two trauma doctors yesterday at a boston area hospital. they say most of these people who are injured are going to have multiple surgeries over the next month, so they have a very long road ahead of them, guys. >> gretchen: start to piece together all those personal

stories, it's so tragic. >> steve: speaking of the little eight-year-old boy, sounds like as soon as the first bomb went off about 100 some yards away from him, his father gathered the family to get the heck out of there. sounds like they actually ran toward the bomb. who is going to know there would be a second bomb? that exploded 15 seconds later. >> gretchen: now let's get to some other headlines. more than seven months after the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that left four americans dead, we're learning the key changes promised could take months, maybe years, to take full effect in the wake of the september 11 attack, more marines, bigger diplomatic staff and reliable guards were recommended. >> steve: they owe more than a billion dollars in unpaid federal taxes. so should federal workers lose their jobs? a bill that would have that happen firing any employee with, quote, seriously delinquent debt, well, that bill was rejected by the u.s. house.

meantime, it did approve a bill that will ban both individuals and firms not paying taxes from getting future government grants. >> gretchen: as promised, brian is now over at the sports area to tell us about sports. >> brian: as it relates to what happened in boston. the city of boston made it very clear that there was a cowardly attack and they will not change their traditions. despite the terrorist attack on monday, the 2014 boston marathon will go ahead as planned. they say the race is an integral part of the history of the city and committed to continuing the tradition. plan on a lot more security. 26 or 28 miles worth. the heavy hearts in the boston red sox took to the field against cleveland. against their long-time manager. they secured a win. a moment of silence was held before the game. and sweet caroline was played overt p.a. during warm-ups and

the red sox traditional water was played after the game. they dedicated their win to their city. the yankees paid tribute to the city of boston also with a musical rendition of "sweet caroline." ♪ where it began ♪ i can't begin to know ♪ . >> brian: of course, they showed signs showing that new york stands with boston, as you see right there. the yankees went on to win and everyone got into it as soon as they realized what the song was about and they would stand up and sing along. >> gretchen: his next race is saturday at the speedway. right now nascar's joey lagana is practicing his racing moves with our own anna kooiman. good morning. >> hey there, good morning to you to everybody. we're in jersey city, new jersey, with the one and only joey lagano.

good morning to you. >> good morning. >> last time i saw you was the daytona 500. for folks who don't know, this is the youngest cup driver, the youngest nationwide winner for both of those. how does it feel to be the top ten in points this season? >> good. very eventful season. we've been close to winning a couple races with our ford. so it's coming around the corner. >> when you say eventful, you're saying crashing hamlin into a wall. it did make a coca-cola ad. >> it was perfect. it's amazing how something like that effects everything. in the past we're moving ahead. >> you're on a campaign to dig it. >> yes. call 811 before you dig. it's a company that you go visit www .811. com. call 811-point com and you can go on there. you call before you digthat's t.

>> you ready? >> yes. >> give us the flag, big guy. >> all right, joey. ♪ . >> i was close, though, right? >> that was nice. >> brian: that was awesome! >> steve: you passed him, anna. for a while. >> did you see him send me into the wall? >> steve: we saw that. >> brian: i think joey had a faster vehicle. i think you should look into that. examine his engine. get the inspectors out there,

anna. >> gretchen: we'll check back in with her later on. for years he had front row seats to george bush's presidency. eric draper, bush's personal photographer is here with images you've never seen before. ♪

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as well as the shredded backpack that was apparently hidden in. take a look. that bag we've highlighted, it might be the one held in the second bomb. the f.b.i. is asking for the public's help, saying send any pictures taken at the scene, even if you think they don't show anything, it would be different for them. >> steve: he brought a clear focus to a behind the scenes life of president george w. bush, his white house and is the chief white house photographer captured president bush from serious moments of crisis to private heartfelt family life. joining us right now to tell us his story is eric draper, former chief white house photographer for president george w. bush and author of book. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: so you were the longest serving chief white house photographer? >> that'right. >> steve: why did he keep you around that long? >> that's a very good question. i guess i did my job well, yeah.

but it was definitely an amazing eight years for me. >> steve: and during that time, how many pictures do you think you took? >> i took nearly a million pictures. >> steve: oh, my goodness. >> just myself alone. >> steve: that is amazing. let's look at some of the pictures and tell us what we're looking at. the first one looks like father's day. >> right. this was january 20, 2001, the very first moments that george w. bush sat down as president at the desk in the oval office and his father was there joining him in a very proud father-son moment and also the only second son of a president to become president. so there is a lot of history in that image. >> steve: 41 is probably anything, that used to be my desk and now that winner snapper has it. what's the first lady doing in this picture? >> this is a quiet, subtle moment in the oval office which actually what i enjoyed the most was waiting for these kind of surprise moments between all the formality and between all the schedules.

and mrs. bush walked into the oval office before a meeting that she was participating in and came in to fluff up the pillows and the president is preparing for the meeting. it's a nice quiet moment. >> steve: there was some noisy moments. look at this one right here. they're bowling. >> right. this is the family bowling tournament at camp david. every christmas the entire bush clan would stay at camp david and so this is the family, the president reacting to some of the action in the bowling alley at camp david. >> steve: do you have access to the first family kind of 24 hours a day, because it looks like he's in a robe there. >> yes. this was another surprise moment. a gift arrived in the oval office one morning, very early in the morning, and he opened the box and it's this boxing robe, like the real deal. he put it on. he wanted to show it off to someone. i was the only one there. he was looking around to show it off to someone. >> steve: that's awesome. now the first family on a couch,

seems to be a problem there. there is a little space between them. >> yeah. this is inside buckingham palace and the president and mrs. bush were guests of the queen and buckingham palace is like the white house, but bigger, and they're actually like children running around buckingham palace and they wanted me to take their picture in all areas of the palace. this is a fun, light moment. >> steve: that's fantastic. and then an awe inspiring visit was with the pope. >> right. this was the first visit meeting with the pope, pope john ii at his summer home in italy and an incredible view and amazing -- i was in awe just to be present to experience that. >> steve: now, obviously a number of the photographs that you took are in the book. but where are the other close to 1 million images? >> everything will be housed in the new presidential library in

dallas and it's a complete, 100% digital visual archive which was my responsibility for maintaining as the chief white house photographer. yeah, everything is there. all the records of the administration is there. >> steve: was he a good subject? would you take a picture and then say, hey, mr. president, look at this? >> he really enjoyed seeing my photographs and i used to put together a photo book for him to see every week and he really enjoyed sending photos to people. he would personally sign them and send them a photo of their meeting. he was really into pictures. >> steve: also there in the west wing they have these great big pictures that you blow up. i think you call them jumbos? >> that's right. a great venue and ongoing display of photographs there. so that was another way and the president could walk through the halls and see the pictures, but also staff and visitors. so that was always a great venue. >> steve: fantastic. if you want to get a good feel for the administration of george

w. bush, check out eric draper's new book "front row seat, a photographic portrait." thank you very much. >> thank you. >> gretchen: looks like a good book. the constitution, who needs one? wait 'til you see how easy it is asking folks to sign away their second amendment rights. >> we're going to just repeal the second amendment and take the guns away from the crazy right wing white extremists and just make sure that only the illegal unregistered guns stay on the streets. thank you so much. >> gretchen: only illegal guns stay on the streets. the man behind that petition is going to join us next. first on this day in history, in 1981, "kiss on my lips" by hall and oates was the number one song. seems like yesterday, doesn't it? ♪ because your kiss is on my lips ♪ ♪ was the best things in life ♪ because your kiss ♪ your kiss is on my lips

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>> brian: the second amendment guarantees you the right to bear arms. wait until you hear how easy it is when asking people to surrender that right. >> we're going to just repeal the second amendment and take the guns away from the crazy right wing white extremists and just make sure that only the illegal unregistered guns stay on the street. thank you so much. >> brian: media critic mark dice joins us now. he was the man behind the petition and joins us live from san diego. that piece goes along for how many minutes and how many people did you talk to to see how oblivious they were about the second amendment? >> it's incredible. the segment is probably five to six minutes long. it probably only took me 15 minutes to shoot. a lot of people think that i stood out there all day talking

to people and cherry picked the ignorant zombies, as i call them. but it was incredible how quick i collected these signatures, well over a dozen of them. i don't know if the people were stoned, it was a friday afternoon at the beach, but the level of ignorance, at least in southern california, is shocking. >> brian: it is. there is so much at stake. our vote counts just as much as their vote and they're not paying attention. why did you do this and why did you do something, i understand, with the first amendment, too. what is the overall goal of yours? >> i'm a big jay leno fan. everybody knows his famous jay walking segment where he asks the american public simple common sense questions and many people don't know. so i decided to put my own spin on it and see if i could get them to sign petitions to agree to absurd things. so this repeal the second amendment and do confiscations door to door of tea party

supporters and law-abiding citizens was last monday. this monday i posted one, repealing the first amendment. >> brian: let's hear it. >> i described it the next few weeks are just going to get crazier and crazier. >> brian: let's hear your first amendment. >> what we're trying to do is just repeal the first amendment. this will repeal the first amendment and so that people can't say mean things. i'm tired of people having the right to say what they want to say. you disagree -- you don't have the right to disagree. the first amendment is not really needed. it's kind of outdated. we're just going to put some polish on it and fix it. thanks for your support. >> brian: very scary, mark. >> i don't know if it's just a southern california phenomenon or what, but a point here that i wanted to make is all i had to say was, the key words, will you help support obama? and their eyes lit up, oh, yeah. i'll sign anything to support

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this morning after a plea from the governor, the mysterious tiler comes forward. you'll hear from him. "fox & friends" starts now. >> gretchen: fox news alert. the nation mourns brand-new details now on the terrorist attack in boston emerging overnight. live team coverage for this morning. wendell goler live at the white house for us with the latest on the f.b.i.'s search for a suspect. first let's go to molly line in boston with a first look at the remains of the bomb. good morning. >> good morning. we're getting more information about the two bombs that were used here on the streets in boston. but very little information about the suspect or suspects that are responsible for this vicious attack here at the boston marathon finish line. crime scene photos first obtained by our affiliate in atlanta, fox 5, show exactly what investigators have been talking about in the details

that they reveal about the bombs. f.b.i. authorities say that they believe that the devices, at least one of them for certain, was made from a pressure cooker filled with shrapnel consisting of small pieces of metal, ball bearings, sharp spikes like nails, the intention to create as much carnage as possible. they also believe the items were likely carried in black nylon bags. bomb experts at the f.b.i. academy in virginia will be trying to rebuild and assess the fragments of what's left of these metal pieces to provide clues that will help them learn about who exactly did this. f.b.i. officials making a plea to the public to come forward with any information about someone that may have spoken about the boston marathon or bombing the boston marathon, attacking the boston marathon. we also have photos, incredible photos from whdh, local station, that has a picture of before and just after the bombing occurred. in those we see the runners just

a few feet away from a bag placed on the sidewalk. that bag also just inches from the spectators that are watching this race. investigators will be poring over the photos trying to determine just what that bag has to do with this, if, perhaps, it was actually hiding that bomb. gretchen? >> gretchen: molly line live with the breaking details. thank you very much. >> brian: they're talk being sophisticated triggering. it might have been -- crude but sophisticated triggering is the key in the mechanism. the f.b.i. now reaching out to americans saying tell us what you know. meantime, the president said to visit boston tomorrow for an interdenominational service. webbedle goler with the details. >> he will speak at a interfaith memorial service and likely meet with some of the family members of some of the victims. he asked for regular updates on the investigation and his staff is taking him at his word. there were a couple updates yesterday. in addition, white house officials have had briefings,

several of them, with members of the federal response team and boston law enforcement over the last two days, including one last night. white house assistant for homeland security, lisa monaco, is the president's main contact. that's her between attorney general eric holder and f.b.i. director robert muller. everyone in the picture you see here will be back here for another briefing this morning. yesterday the president said for the first time, the boston bombing was a terrorist attack. >> any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror. what we don't yet know, however, is who carried out this attack or why, whether it was planned and executed by a terrorist organization, foreign or domestic, or was the act of a malevolent individual. >> federal officials seem to suspect it's a home grown attack. neither the director of national intelligence nor the head of the c.i.a. is on the list of people attending the white house briefings yesterday and today.

f.b.i. agent believes someone probably in boston knows the bomber. >> we're asking anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon or the date of april 15 in any way that indicated that he or she may target the event to call us. someone knows who did this. >> authorities say they received more than 2,000 tips so far. boston police and firefighters offering a a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest. >> brian: thanks so much. it's going to be interesting 24 hours maybe in the investigation. >> gretchen: and this morning we're learning who the victims of the marathon bombing were and how they're being remembered. hundreds packed boston common lighting candles and holding signs asking for peace to honor martin richard, crystal campbell and a boston university graduate student. >> steve: let's show you a little bit about each of them. eight-year-old richard martin -- martin richard was at the race

cheering on friends and family members and waiting at the finish line to give his father a hug when the bombs went off. his mom and younger sister suffered major injuries from the blast. 29-year-old crystal campbell was also killed in the explosion. she was at the race to cheer on her friend's boyfriend. the hospital originally told her parents that she survived and that her friend had died. but later they discovered that it was crystal's friend who had lived, but she was carrying the other girl's i.d. >> we are heart broken. everybody that knew her loved her. she was all smiles. you couldn't ask for a better daughter. >> brian: she was making her way in the restaurant industry. the third victim was attending grad school at boston university. her family asked no other information be released at this

time. >> steve: meanwhile, there was one young woman who was injured yesterday -- day before yesterday. victoria, a student at northeastern university. she's being treated now at tufts medical center. when she was taken over to the area where they were trying to triage people, she was hysterical. but there was a guy by the name of tyler who helped her and now yesterday, the governor of that state did his best to find tyler. here is the governor. >> his name is tyler. that's all we know. tyler. one of the things he said to her to calm her dawn was to show her his own shrapnel wound or scar from his own shrapnel wound from when he was in afghanistan. victoria very, very much wants to thank tyler personally. so if tyler is out there and listening or reading your reports, we would love to hear from tyler so that we can connect him to victoria. >> gretchen: a friend of tyler's

heard that yesterday late afternoon, called up tyler and said, i think they're talking about you, tyler. and they want you to get in touch. why? because victoria wanted to personally thank him in person. here is tyler. >> i just saw the terror in her eyes. she was obviously in extreme pain. i just knew that i had to talk to her, that there was nothing else i could do. she asked me not to leave her. she was holding my hand. some kind of connection on a spiritual level, i would have to say. just when i told her it was going to be okay, she believed me. i can't describe how calm she was at that point and she said yeah, just very selfless and telling me to go help other people. her strength helped me through the situation to help other people and she just seemed like an amazing person. >> brian: she did move on. he was able to compare his ied scars, that you're going to have a scar like mine. who would think your experience in war would help you at the

boston marathon. >> gretchen: if you're wondering what to tell your kids, tell them about the heroic acts of the man like tyler because there are so many people like that that can put a positive spin on this. >> steve: a developing story, and fox news alert. a letter containing traces of potentially deadly poison known as risin has been sent to a republican senator's capitol hill office. >> gretchen: many are wondering if it's connected to the marathon bombing. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani says it has to be considered. >> i was taught you investigate by not excluding coincidences. when you have a coincidence, it's probably connected. if it isn't connected, you can find out. so the fact is, all of a sudden getting something like this sent to the united states senate, you have to start wondering, is this something being triggered here? is something going on? may turn out not to be so, but it's worth investigating it from that point of view.

>> brian: peter doocy is following the investigation for right outside the senate mail facility. peter, this could have been a lot worse had we not had a system set up to stop situations like this. >> right, brian. so far from what we've heard, the system worked and that it kept that letter here in this building behind me in maryland. this is the building where a field test was performed on a letter that was addressed to republican u.s. senator roger wicker. that test came back positive for risin poison and we don't know a whole lot at this point about the letter. we know that it was postmarked memphis, tennessee. had no return address. but otherwise, did not look suspicious. the f.b.i. is saying that initial testing was inconsistent. so an accredited lab is working to confirm the presence of risin and those results should be in within 24 to 48 hours. in the meantime, we know risin can be deadly and we know there is no antidote. so senators were briefed on the

latest details last night. >> not just members concerned, it rarely gets to a member before it gets to a lot of staff. that's a big concern obviously for all of us. we're very anxious to get more details. >> democratic senator claire mccaskill from missouri says investigators suspect a man who sends a lot of letters to lawmakers may be behind this. the law maker whose name is on this particular suspicious envelope says this matter is part of an ongoing investigation by the united states capitol police and f.b.i i want to thank our law enforcement officials for the hard work and diligence in keeping those of us who work in the capitol complex safe. remember about a decade ago in 2004, some risin poison was found on a letter opening machine in then senate majority leader bill frist's office, but no letter was ever found.

so no arrests were ever made. in this case, the postal service says they are working to keep their customers and the mail safe, but as of right now and for the indefinite future, no mail being delivered to the u.s. senate building in washington. back to you. >> brian: at least that's one investigation where they have somebody in mind. >> steve: remember in the anthrax days, one letter was sent to our floor. one person was infected, but she made a full recovery. >> gretchen: thank goodness. today's other headlines, american airlines is getting back to normal after a all day shut down. a computer glitch forced them to delay or cancel 2,000 flights yesterday. they said passengers who had to make flight changes will not be charged a fee. that's the only good news in that story. more than 7 months after the attack on the benghazi attack that left four americans dead, we're learning the key changes promised will take months, possibly years to take effect. in the wake of the september 11 attack, more marines, bigger diplomatic staff and more

reliable local guards were recommended. the smithsonian institution feeling the effects of the sequester. it must shut down galleries starting may 1. officials say necessary security cuts will prevent all exhibits from being opened at the same time. new exhibits will also likely be postponed or canceled in 2014 and 2015. and those are your headlines. >> steve: that's the museum with the hope diamond. it's cursed. >> brian: straight ahead, we just showed you the president calling the boston bombings terror. peter johnson, jr. said that will scare americans, but it needs to be. he's here to explain. >> steve: caught on camera, a uniformed army captain attacked for serving our country. the video that will outrage you and who is behind this vicious attack. you're watching "fox & friends"

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>> brian: yesterday president obama making it very clear the boston bombings were indeed terrorism. >> this was a heinous and cowardly act and given what we now know about what took place, the f.b.i. is investigating it as an act of terrorism. any time bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror. >> brian: peter johnson, jr. saysytg1 this is a good move fe administration. we heard people who work for the administration were calling it

terror right away. the president said tragedy. >> truth trumps terror. honesty trumps fear in this country. but it's interesting, the day before, it was defined as a tragedy by the president. the day after it's defined as terror. he changed in some quarters what the definition of terrorism is perceived in this country, in this world. there doesn't appear to be a motive at this point. there doesn't appear to be, that we know, who did it or why they did it. but at the same time, the president decided to call it terror and will be going to boston to meet with the people there which he should be doing and this is a time to rally behind -- >> brian: 170 to visit. >> to rally behind our country ask our flag and our president. what is terrorism? the u.n. has a definition in terms of coercing government activity. is this the act of a lone mad man who we never understand who it is? is this the act of a domestic

anarchist group, whether on the left or the right? or is this the act of a foreign terrorist group like al-qaeda? taliban has denied being involved with it. al-qaeda typically would take credit for such a bombing. so we're a few days out. we don't know what it is. we know it's trystistic in nature -- terroristic in nature. is there a political motive? are they trying to customers some kind of particular government activity? >> brian: what do you think? >> i don't know. perhaps the president knows. perhaps that's why the president decided the turn about the second day to call it terror, or did he do it because the political winds were saying, oh, my god, you're doing this again, mr. president. you're not labeling terrorism what it should be terrorism. we're going to know hopefully soon. it's important for people to call up the f.b.i. and give tips and give tapes if they have it. >> brian: but a tragedy is not accurate. a tragedy is an earthquake -- >> it's a matter of fate, of

accident, of negligence sometimes, and the effect it has on the people who are inflicted that pain. this does have terroristic threat markings of it, but is it, in fact terrorism? we're going to find out soon. it has the same effect one way or the other. >> brian: all right. peter johnson, jr., thanks so much. >> good to see you. >> brian: we'll talk about that and see what the president's tone is today. ahead, what would you do if you were caught in a terror situation? we'll tell you how to think like a secret service agent to protect yourself before anything happens. plus, a dad passes out behind the wheel and his young kids spring into action. >> we're passing the theater. >> how fast are you going right now? >> we're going almost 90. >> almost 90? >> brian: wow. the outcome, nothing short of miraculous [ male announcer ] dunes, desert, or trail,

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london, remembering the iron lady. amy? >> steve, brian, gretchen, the bishop of london made it clear that this was the funeral and not a memorial service to be laden with you'lls. that's what she wanted. in fact, she actually had quite a hand in the planning of her funeral down to choosing some of the hymns and many of the readings. the bishop of london also said he wanted the service to be devoid of political overtones. however, he did spokes on certain acts of kindness that lady thatcher had been known for, possibly quietly. put a human touch on her, talking about the attention she often paid to people who worked for her, people who were not of any political importance. she even -- he even wove a few moments of gentle humor in, spoke about some of the letters that she had written to people. david cameron paid wider tribute

to her before the mass. >> i'm an enormous fan of margaret thatcher and what she achieved and i think the remarkable part of her legacy is how widely it is now accepted. no one wants to go back to the days of industrial relations anarchy or mass nationalizations or weak defenses. >> he went on to say about margaret thatcher that she was here for the country when the country really needed her and that he felt was the most important part of her legacy. the bottom line. michelle bachmann is here as part of the u.s. congressional delegation and recently said after the service concluded, to commentators that she, margaret thatcher, had been the most consequential political woman in the last 100 years. there had been concerns about security overall. but particularly demonstrations and people causing trouble outside of st. paul's cathedral. those opposed to her policies. there were some boos, there were

some people who turned their back towards the coffin, towards the proceedings as they made their way into the cathedral as a mark of protest. but basically it was all very civilized and more importantly or more significantly, louder were the cheers that rang out after she was taken from the cathedral. people really respecting her memory. back to you. >> steve: as the bells peel, we can hear it. >> brian: next up, caught on camera, a uniformed army captain attacked simply for serving his country. the video that will outrage you and who is behind the assault. >> gretchen: and anna getting her motor running. she's getting a rematch against joey lagano coming up. >> brian: i think he cheated. >> steve: she's waving. both hands on the steering wheel !

>> brian: as we get a look at what remains of one of the bombs used in boston, as well as the shredded backpack which it was apparently hidden in. some say there were two liners. a black and gray one. take a look now of the bag that we highlighted. it might be one that held the second bomb. the f.b.i. is asking for the public's help, saying send any pictures taken at the scene like that one, even if you think they do not show anything. >> steve: yeah. apparently they've narrowed it down. they're pretty confident they

feel that this -- these bombs were created inside a six liter pressure cooker, then filled with nails and bb's and things like that, and according to one news source this morning, this is haggai gappic piece of evidence -- and we don't have a photograph of it, but apparently the lid of one of the pressure cookers was found on the roof of a building near the finish line. >> brian: that's going to be interesting. they say all bombs are crude. but the detonation devices which aren't crude. that is the fingerprint of the bomber that will tell us where it is. the "new york post" reporting today that they're looking more for a domestic attacker and they are looking at one 30-year-old who seemed to be going the opposite way of the bombing, whose pants were shredded. >> gretchen: the amazing thing is that they're really reaching out to the public because they need any photos, even they were stopping people at the airport in logan to say if you have photos, we want to look at them because you never know what might be in them.

let's go live to a press conference that's beginning right now with the trauma surgeon where 19 patients are. let's listen in. >> we have considered ten of them critical. three serious and six were considered in fair condition. we reoperated on five of those patients yesterday and they continue to improve. of the 19 patients still in the hospital, two are considered critical. seven are fair. we plan on reoperating on about eight of these patients today and we are looking to discharge one or two of these patients as well today. so things are moving along as expected and the patients are doing well. >> how many required amputations? >> we had as of today, seven amputations in five patients. >> how do you tell someone they're going to lose a limb? >> you have to be honest with patients about that and it's a

very difficult thing for both the patients, especially, and their families and the care givers. we do it the best we can with this situation. >> you tell them their life is at risk if you don't take this measure? >> that's certainly the case in the beginning. >> can you describe what you saw when this first happened? i mean, you said you had 23 patients that came in? >> right. >> what kind of injuries were you seeing? >> we were seeing -- this is the trauma service. i was not here in the initial event. i was out of the state and came back. we saw -- these are inju see, but never quite as -- not this many all at the same time. the injuries are related to the device and the form of trauma from fragments and the blast. >> shrapnel? >> fragments, yeah, shrapnel.

there is fragments of the bomb itself perhaps and things around where the bomb went off. >> have you been able to identify any -- >> we've taken out large quantities of pieces of things. it's hard to really tell exactly what they are. we send them to the pathologist and they're available to the police. >> the search is over for -- only three or so involved shrapnel wounds directly to the bomb, like the nails or bearings. the rest is debris. was that the same thing here? n we're not making any judgments about where these fragments come from. some are metal, some are plastic, some are wood, some are concrete. it's really difficult to know. so it doesn't really matter to us. we're just trying to deal with the consequences of those fragments. >> can you talk about the first responders and the critical role they played in getting patients here? >> i cannot sing the praises higher than for the ems services. they were there.

they triaged patients. they brought them to several different hospitals across the city. that allowed those hospitals to step up and take care of the patients. if they brought them all to one place, that place would be overwhelmed and that didn't happen because boston ems thinks about this and they're organized, so they can not be praised higher. >> you think boston is unique in its ability to handle such a large scale tragedy like this? >> no, i don't think so. i think most cities have systems for this and nothing is perfect, but i think most places try to anticipate things like this. boston is unique in certain respects that we have a lot of places that have -- that are level one trauma centers and they're close to each other. that works well in a situation like this. it can be helpful. i think it was in this case. >> can you explain -- i don't know -- can you explain how it works when something like this

happens? all the calls go through boston ems? >> right. there is a central system for dispatching this and they work together. >> that's how you got 25 people at each hospital and you have 75? >> right, right. and i'm sure if you ask them, they could tell you all about it. being organized is really important, being organized in the beginning helps patients do well. >> can you talk a little medically about the medical challenges you all faced in the early hours and then now going forward, what surgeons and other kinds of specialists will be facing? >> initially we're worried about life saving maneuvers, stopping the bleeding and things like that, stabilizing patients so we can deal with their injuries over time. but it's really important for people to realize that this is something that they get injured really quickly, but it takes a long time for the people to get better and there is lots of steps in that process.

so now what we're doing with these patients is evaluating their wounds to see making sure that there is not any other processes going on, trying to prevent infection, then allowing them to be -- for these wounds to heal and then eventually for these patients to have their wounds closed and then start the rehabilitation process. so it's a continual and begins in the beginning and continuous. >> what does cared for potential ptsd kick in? >> right. this is a subject that is very important and we start from the beginning and we try to get -- to be sensitive and to work with these patients and their families as well, ptsd is not just about the patients. it's about their families as well. we work with them from the beginning. there is no -- as far as i know, any magic bullets to prevent this. but it's again, a processment it

evolves over time and something people need not forget about and it can be with these patients forever and we can actually help them. >> what was the majority of injuries that you saw? i know you were talking about ems assessing who goes where. was there something specialized? >> no. we are a level one trauma center. we see all kinds of injuries. so we saw the kind of injuries that were from this kind of incident, so blast injuries, fragment injuries, this particular event was very much focused on the lower extremities, it seems, and that was true for all the other hospitals. we also saw the same kind of stuff. the ems people take piece patients, depending on how sick they are, to the highest level of care, which in this case would be a level one trauma center like boston medical center. >> you mentioned ongoing surgeries. can you explain to us, i imagine initially everything is amputation. what more surgeries?

>> initially we're doing those life saving things, which sometimes require an amputation to control the bleeding. the next steps are to reevaluate these wounds. because of the nature of trauma, you can't tell exactly all of the damage that may have happened and you need to look at things over time. so time is a really important concept here in terms of the wounds and what happens to them. you don't want to close a wound definitively, ie, bring the skin back together over the damaged tissue until you know the tissue is viable and not infected and all of the foreign bodies, as much as possible are removed 'cause if you close them too early, then those wounds will become infected and you're starting over again. it's very much a process. >> a, quote, operation, is to clean out wounds? >> exactly. cleaning those wounds out, making sure the debris is gone, making sure that the tissues that remain are viable.

>> is it too early for physical therapist to be in? >> in general we start with getting our physical therapists involved to a certain extent. there is a lot going on for these patients and you don't want to overwhelm them and it's a balancing act. but generally speaking, we like to think that we are starting the process of rehabilitation from the moment these patients hit the door. >> i believe yesterday you said that some were life-threatening injuries. today are things looking better? >> so initially we had ten or 11 that we considered critical. now we only have two. they're still critically ill, but most patients are make good progress, moving through the process. >> do you expect those two patients will survive? >> yes, i do. but until they're home, i won't be satisfied. >> how are you able to go from ten or 12 yesterday to two today? >> well, they get better and we

reoperate on them and then stabilize them and they no longer need as much critical care. that's sort of how we judge these things. so they're getting better. so they're less critically ill. >> two critical patients? >> so we have two critical, ten serious, and seven fair. that's, again, a continuum as you start critical usually and then you move through the process and then they get to go home, which is the goal. >> there was a five-year-old. is that patient still critical? >> he's still critically ill? >> what was the age range? >> from five to 78 for the patients we saw. >> these were saul spectators or some runners? >> they're both. it's hard for us to judge. we haven't -- >> they were runners? >> i believe we had some runners. i cannot give you that breakdown of who is what. but it seems to be a lot of observers, spectators.

it reflects the general population. >> the two critically ill patients, are you able to say with more specificity, are they leg injuries? >> they're both. they're both. yeah. some are pulmonary, many are extremity. and then the consequences -- when a person gets critically injured, it may just be due to extremity, but has systemic effects and makes them sick all over, makes their lungs not work and hearts not work and depending on what you bring to the table and time of your trauma, that can be different. >> (inaudible). >> not that i'm aware of. i'm sure it's available. a general process when we remove things from people that we send them to the pathologist, that's our process and so they would be available, i would assume. >> what type? >> fragments taken out of the victims, in this case. >> you say the five-year-old is

one? >> he's still critically ill, yes. >> a boy? >> yes. >> there has been a lot of interest in how, because so many of these people had family and young children in the family, how is that dealt with when they're brought into the hotel rooms or the hospital rooms, how do you care for the family members when the patient is so critically injured in that way? >> right. well, it's very difficult. the important thing is to remember that there is more than just the patient and the family needs to be involved. i think at least our process is to be very up front and honest with the people and let them know as much information as we have. let them know that this is a continuum that changes over time. families are different. some people really want to know everything. some people would rather have it given information more slowly. so it depends. we need to make judgments that are sensitive to those families. but i think in general, people want to know what's going on and

we are very forth coming about that and as honest as possible in a situation that changes over time. but it's very important to have a process where we're involved in that because these patients don't get better unless their families are whole and able to take care of them. that's another important concept. that's why we need to treat the family as much as the patient because otherwise the patients won't do as well. that's the goal. >> are you going to explain pulmonary injuries? >> we've had a few injuries where the lungs seem to have been damaged from perhaps the blast or being thrown. it's hard to tell sometimes. and the lungs then become bruised and then they don't function as well. and generally the treatment for those kind of injuries are supportive and that's what we're doing and we expect the patients in question are going to get better. but again, i will not be happy until they're home. i will not be satisfied.

>> any other questions? >> doctor, the military -- i don't have any military experience (inaudible). >> we see wounds like this, not so much from blast injuries and never in this volume. i don't personally have military experience, but many of my colleague december and we have made ourselves -- they have made themselves available and we're not going to reinvent the wheel. when people have experience, we're going to use it. that improves patient care. >> (inaudible). >> that was our case, that many of the patients were alert enough to know what was going on. some of them weren't 'cause they were so critically ill. the ones who got really taken quickly to the operating room generally were the latter. but yeah.

in patients we involve them in their care as much as we can because again, they get better when they're involved. they get better, better. >> what were the most dire injuries that came in? >> it's hard to classify them. but the major ones that were life-threatening involved large amounts of soft tissue injuries and also vascular injuries. so the blood vessels to the extremities were compromised and needed to be repaired. those are the ones that if we don't get to them quickly and the ems is not on top of things, that they can bleed to death. that was some of the issues that were going on. >> the two critically who remain, can you say any more about their specific injuries? >> some have pulmonary injuries and others are extreme extremity injuries. >> can you give us the ages? >> there is one who is five.

he's in his 60s, i think. i think so, yeah. >> 60. i got the breakdown of six males and 13 females. not quite a general population. >> (inaudible). >> the five-year-old is male. >> the 60-year-old? >> the 60-year-old? male. >> you mentioned a couple times just about preventing infections. is that custom marry for the surgeries that they have? does that have to do with the fragments they may have? >> it's both. and it has to do with the size of the fragments and being able to remove them. some of them are tiny and you can't really find them. and it has to do with how much damage is done to the local tissues around. the only way we ever get people to prevent infection and to keep from getting infected is because the body is good at fighting infection. you need to allow the body to do

that. and we've learned that to do that, we need to make sure the tissues are viable by either the blood supply is adequate and that the foreign bodies are removed as much as possible. then the body can prevent infection and/or treat an infection that may have started. antibiotics help, but they don't -- it takes more than that. >> what were some of the risks the patients going forward in terms of operations, treatment, things you're worried about that are keeping your staff up at night? >> we worry about a lot of different things. there are a lot of problems that patients who are critically ill can get into. infection is a big issue. we worry about when anybody is significantly traumatized, they have a higher incidence of making clots in their veins, so they can get clots in their veins that then can travel up to their lungs and that can be a deadly scenario. and we worry about all the complications of pneumonia if

they're intubated and things like that. there are a lot of consequences that reflect from being this critically ill. we try to prevent as many as possible. >> so far so good? >> so far so good. >> we heard about pulmonary impact. any neurological trauma that you're concerned with? >> in our population, we had one or two head injuries. not any very severe head injury, which is very lucky. so we haven't had to deal with a lot of mechanical head injuries. the other injuries that we always worry about in blasts and we've seen some of these are injuries to the ear drums and some of that. i had all our patients basically assessed by the ear, nose and throat specialist so we can catch that over time and deal with that. >> what was the largest fragment? >> i think there was some fragments that were four or five centimeters. big pieces of stuff.

>> there weren't too many head injuries. does that indicate anything about where the bomb was placed? >> i suppose it does to people who are experts at that. i think as you can tell, that we have a lot of lower extremity injuries, so i think the damage was low to the ground and wasn't up. now the patients who do have head injuries were blown into things probably or hit by fragments that went up. it's hard to know. >> the pieces that have been required multiple surgeries, do you feel confident you'll be able to release them or is it going to be from one hospital to a rehab? >> generally -- had is true for trauma patients in general. we do the acute care part of their needs. we deal with their wounds and their orthopedic and all varies of injuries. and then at some point when those things are stabilized, the next very important thing is get them to rehab because that's part of getting better. we try to move that process as

quickly as possible to get them to the rehab that they need for whatever their injuries are and they're varied. >> is there a blood supply problem? >> no. we've had no issues with blood supply. people are look for things to do that can help, donating blood is always good. you won't find a trauma surgeon that won't advocate for that. >> okay, thanks, everyone. >> thank you. >> steve: all right. we have been listening to an update by dr. peter burke, the chief of trauma there at boston medical center where 19 patients were taken. these are the stats you need to know. they only have two critical patients at this point. they're going to have eight more reoperations today, two will be discharged today. that's good news. and they performed seven ampue different people. >> brian: talk about the need for family, physical healing and a psychological healing. let's go over to gretchen now for more on a different aspect

of this. >> gretchen: thanks. we just heard about the victims from that trauma surgeon at boston medical center. so how do you protect yourself if you're ever in the middle of an attack like the boston bombing? joining me is a former special agent in the secret service and security expert. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: you give points here and one of the first ones you say is obviously for people to just be aware of their surroundings. we've seen this photo released for the first time today where there was a duffel bag next to a mailbox. and yet hundreds of people around it didn't notice it. what should they be looking for? >> you should have situational awareness wherever you go. so what does that mean? when you go to an events, do an assessment, take two minutes to figure out what is around you. what am i standing next to? who am i standing next to? if there is a trash can or a mailbox, don't stand there. somebody could conceal something in there and you can't see it. go stand somewhere else. if you see a duffel bag, say something. that's why they always say, if

you see something, say something. if you see somebody carrying something odd that doesn't fit in the environment, you should seek out law enforcement and bring it to their attention. >> gretchen: you say to look at the people around you. even to the point of no problem staring at them. why? >> yes. as people, we don't like to look at people. anything more than two seconds, you're scary and being rude. you know what? be rude. pay attention to who is next to you. what are they wearing? how do they look? how are they carrying themselves? look at their behaviors. what are they communicating to you not just verbally, but nonverbally. >> gretchen: know where you will evacuate. oftentimes when people get on airplanes, they'll say i'm five rows from the nearest exit. you're talking about just in general, right? >> yes. whether indoors or outdoors. this specific event, you're barricaded in in an area. you're watching the marathon go on. when you get there, assess. if something happens, i want two ways out. if something happens on this side, i will go out this way. if something happens on this side, i will go out that way.

always give yourself that option. don't try to figure it out when it's happening because those few seconds that it takes to you figure out what to do when things break bad, that costs you your life. >> gretchen: let's look at that picture that i was alluding to. here is the picture of the backpack. they believe the bomb may have been inside of that. it's next to some sort of a mailbox container there. what do you make of that when you see that photo? >> when you look at that, it doesn't fit in there. it's just sitting there. no one said anything. no one is paying attention. it's just very obvious. somebody should have picked up on it. but we collectively ask people, we're so focused on ourselves and what we're doing, we don't stop to look around us. we assume police are going to take care of everything. you know what? there is one officer that may be 500 people. 1,000 people. how much can that officer see? >> gretchen: finally, what about our kids, what do we tell them? >> you know, a lot of people think this is a very sensitive topic and it is, but there is a great way to deal with it. we talk about fires and we do fire drills in school.

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